For an obviously intelligent and apparently well-intentioned author, you have done, in this essay, a remarkable job of saying absolutely nothing. Which, to be honest, is all there is to say about this topic. It is scientifically acknowledged that the existence of intelligent life beyond negligible domain of planet Earth - on the universal scale - is a definite possibility if not a mathematical likelihood. However, the consensus among reliable and responsible astrophysicists is that capability of even a technologically advanced and civilized organic life form to physically travel the immense distances of interstellar space is mathematically UNlikely, with the probabilities against executing a successful voyage of millennia in earthly terms, well, astronomical. Of course, there is much the human brain does not know or can even conceive of, even in the best and brightest of us. We therefore must keep an open mind. However, in our search for “The Truth” it would behoove us to keep a mentally critical discipline and keep in mind what we know of ourselves. To whit:
1. What is a strong mathematical probability, given the predilection of humans to engage in unexamined and unsupportable beliefs, is that the whole body of “historical evidence” of extra-terrestrials is fantasy, and
2. Its invention serves at least a couple of significant purposes of our collective psychological need for a “something out there”, especially
2b. The denial of our responsibility for saving our planetary home. In case you haven’t heard, NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE US. Not even from ourselves.
3. There exists a very real political machinery and motivation in the US govt Presidential Administration (yes, that one) to manipulate this information and therefore the masses (who do not exercise aforementioned critical discipline in their thinking) in service of its own agenda.
You asked for critical discipline, so let me apply it to your own three points, because each one smuggles in the conclusion it pretends to arrive at.
The distance math is real and it refutes nothing I wrote. It is an argument against organic beings crossing light-years in slow ships, the most cartoonish version of the phenomenon available, and you have aimed your rigor at the easiest target in the room. Whether instrumented objects exist that trained observers cannot explain is a question about observation. Where they come from is a question about provenance. Collapsing the two so the second can kill the first is not discipline. It is sleight of hand.
You say the belief serves a psychological need. It does. So does the disbelief. The hunger for an empty, orderly, human-only cosmos, with the clever people safely on the debunking side, is every bit as much a need as the hunger for company. You noticed the motive on one side and went blind to the identical motive on your own. A belief being convenient is not evidence against it, in either direction, and you taught me that rule two paragraphs before you broke it.
On the political machinery we finally agree, and then you point it the wrong way. The documented motivation has been to bury this, to classify it, to ridicule it, and to threaten the people who come forward under oath. The manipulation you correctly sense exists, and it has been spent making you feel foolish for asking the question, a job that, judging by your comment, it performed admirably.
Excellent article and response. It’s always alarming, and a tired trope, when someone shoots themselves in the foot contorting over the possibility of disclosure. We are by no means an advanced civilization. In fact at the moment one could argue we’ve slid considerably in the wrong direction. And yet they apply their narrowness to this. We can’t conceive of what it means, but we feel ‘something’ and even the barest articulation of this and all of these brave people have lost any semblance of their lives. Outcasts, diminished and threatened. Thank you for shining a light.
You're welcome. Humanity, measured against the cognition attributed to NHI, is barely awake. The hope of Disclosure is not spectacle but augmentation: that contact stretches our sight, deepens our knowing, and finally teaches us to extend empathy to every form of life sharing this cosmos.
Well that saved me a bit of time. Worth noting the ones saying the thing are all of a certain political persuasion, which speaks to a larger agenda. Tempting as it is to want to believe it's something beyond what's immediately apparent, what's immediately apparent is quite sinister enough.
I don't want to believe. All of the evidence points me there anyway.
I believe we are closer than your comment assumes. The spine of the piece was that the immediately apparent thing, the terrestrial catastrophe, may be exactly what the dread is reading, and I said so plainly. I did not ask anyone to believe it is something beyond the apparent. I refused to resolve it either way, which is a different posture from wanting to believe.
The one place I will push is the claim that the people saying it are all of a single political persuasion. On the facts, it does not sort that way. The modern disclosure effort is one of the last genuinely bipartisan things left in Washington. Harry Reid, a Democrat, funded the original program. Schumer, a Democrat, wrote the Disclosure Act with Rounds, a Republican. Gillibrand drove the oversight office. Rubio pushed the reporting from the Republican side, Burchett from the House. The messengers do not line up behind one party, and an agenda that needs them to is reading a pattern that is not there.
Underneath that is the move worth naming, because you and Lars both reached for it. The politics of who says a thing is not evidence about whether the thing is real. It tells you about the messenger and nothing about the sky.
And yes, the apparent is sinister enough. That is the floor, and I stood on it in the essay. Holding the rest of the question open is not the same as running into it.
What’s coming is the domestic terrorism event which will kill a lot of people, allow Trump to declare martial law, cancel the midterms, and make himself president for life. That’s what’s coming!
An extensive study of the 48 constellations and the names of their stars which were recognized by all the ancient civilizations confirms the words of Psalm 19, also quoted in Romans 10 that before written history the promises of God in Genesis 3:15 were displayed in the sky. Fast forward through astronomy, linguistics, historical records, and the Bible to the cycle of the Ages and the culmination of the promise of a wounded male child who would overcome evil and it becomes credible that we are on the cusp of not just sorely needed judgment, but also a new world.
Act 1 of the celestial story is deliverance from the penalty of sin (forgiveness). Act 2 is deliverance from the power of sin (indwelling Holy Spirit). Act 3 is deliverance from the presence of sin (a community of love). This is the core of real Christianity.
Add in prophecies from Daniel and Revelation that mention 3 1/2 years and you begin to wonder if the last chapter of this unenlightened world of lies is about to end and we can get on with the exciting sequel—minus Satan.
What if this life is an audition for eternity?
My initial Substack article gives more details. This is not astrology, a human-centered corruption of astronomy, but science.
Or build sophisticated underground bunkers like all the billionaires are doing. Look at the monstrous underground compound zuckerburg is finishing up in Hawaii, or those of bezos, musk and others building in the northwest and west coast, or that slimy thiel rushing off to a compound in Argentina.
It is no mistake that the Albanian island the reprehensible 🍊💩’s despicable family is trying to destroy has dozens and dozens of underground bunkers.
They all know something the rest of us don’t and are preparing for 5-10 years of living underground.
Those billionaires who are building massive underground bunkers to live in for 10+ years, or rushing off to a compound in Argentina aren’t just coincidences or because they don’t know what else to do with their ill-gotten wealth.
The billionaires are privy to information that the rest of us peasants and disposable lifeforms have no clue about. They have been leaving clues for years.
For an obviously intelligent and apparently well-intentioned author, you have done, in this essay, a remarkable job of saying absolutely nothing. Which, to be honest, is all there is to say about this topic. It is scientifically acknowledged that the existence of intelligent life beyond negligible domain of planet Earth - on the universal scale - is a definite possibility if not a mathematical likelihood. However, the consensus among reliable and responsible astrophysicists is that capability of even a technologically advanced and civilized organic life form to physically travel the immense distances of interstellar space is mathematically UNlikely, with the probabilities against executing a successful voyage of millennia in earthly terms, well, astronomical. Of course, there is much the human brain does not know or can even conceive of, even in the best and brightest of us. We therefore must keep an open mind. However, in our search for “The Truth” it would behoove us to keep a mentally critical discipline and keep in mind what we know of ourselves. To whit:
1. What is a strong mathematical probability, given the predilection of humans to engage in unexamined and unsupportable beliefs, is that the whole body of “historical evidence” of extra-terrestrials is fantasy, and
2. Its invention serves at least a couple of significant purposes of our collective psychological need for a “something out there”, especially
2b. The denial of our responsibility for saving our planetary home. In case you haven’t heard, NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE US. Not even from ourselves.
3. There exists a very real political machinery and motivation in the US govt Presidential Administration (yes, that one) to manipulate this information and therefore the masses (who do not exercise aforementioned critical discipline in their thinking) in service of its own agenda.
You asked for critical discipline, so let me apply it to your own three points, because each one smuggles in the conclusion it pretends to arrive at.
The distance math is real and it refutes nothing I wrote. It is an argument against organic beings crossing light-years in slow ships, the most cartoonish version of the phenomenon available, and you have aimed your rigor at the easiest target in the room. Whether instrumented objects exist that trained observers cannot explain is a question about observation. Where they come from is a question about provenance. Collapsing the two so the second can kill the first is not discipline. It is sleight of hand.
You say the belief serves a psychological need. It does. So does the disbelief. The hunger for an empty, orderly, human-only cosmos, with the clever people safely on the debunking side, is every bit as much a need as the hunger for company. You noticed the motive on one side and went blind to the identical motive on your own. A belief being convenient is not evidence against it, in either direction, and you taught me that rule two paragraphs before you broke it.
On the political machinery we finally agree, and then you point it the wrong way. The documented motivation has been to bury this, to classify it, to ridicule it, and to threaten the people who come forward under oath. The manipulation you correctly sense exists, and it has been spent making you feel foolish for asking the question, a job that, judging by your comment, it performed admirably.
Excellent article and response. It’s always alarming, and a tired trope, when someone shoots themselves in the foot contorting over the possibility of disclosure. We are by no means an advanced civilization. In fact at the moment one could argue we’ve slid considerably in the wrong direction. And yet they apply their narrowness to this. We can’t conceive of what it means, but we feel ‘something’ and even the barest articulation of this and all of these brave people have lost any semblance of their lives. Outcasts, diminished and threatened. Thank you for shining a light.
You're welcome. Humanity, measured against the cognition attributed to NHI, is barely awake. The hope of Disclosure is not spectacle but augmentation: that contact stretches our sight, deepens our knowing, and finally teaches us to extend empathy to every form of life sharing this cosmos.
We are a species in arrested development- more inclined to smash what we don’t understand than try and elucidate any meaning.
Great debate!
I think James Brown summed it up best in "Talkin' Loud and Saying Nothin'." Sumsayin'
Well that saved me a bit of time. Worth noting the ones saying the thing are all of a certain political persuasion, which speaks to a larger agenda. Tempting as it is to want to believe it's something beyond what's immediately apparent, what's immediately apparent is quite sinister enough.
I don't want to believe. All of the evidence points me there anyway.
I believe we are closer than your comment assumes. The spine of the piece was that the immediately apparent thing, the terrestrial catastrophe, may be exactly what the dread is reading, and I said so plainly. I did not ask anyone to believe it is something beyond the apparent. I refused to resolve it either way, which is a different posture from wanting to believe.
The one place I will push is the claim that the people saying it are all of a single political persuasion. On the facts, it does not sort that way. The modern disclosure effort is one of the last genuinely bipartisan things left in Washington. Harry Reid, a Democrat, funded the original program. Schumer, a Democrat, wrote the Disclosure Act with Rounds, a Republican. Gillibrand drove the oversight office. Rubio pushed the reporting from the Republican side, Burchett from the House. The messengers do not line up behind one party, and an agenda that needs them to is reading a pattern that is not there.
Underneath that is the move worth naming, because you and Lars both reached for it. The politics of who says a thing is not evidence about whether the thing is real. It tells you about the messenger and nothing about the sky.
And yes, the apparent is sinister enough. That is the floor, and I stood on it in the essay. Holding the rest of the question open is not the same as running into it.
Well said! Nothing like saying nothing to stimulate nothing…at least from me!
The moment Tim Burchett is mentioned, all possible credibility is lost. He is my Congressman, unfortunately, and is completely useless.
What’s coming is the domestic terrorism event which will kill a lot of people, allow Trump to declare martial law, cancel the midterms, and make himself president for life. That’s what’s coming!
What we really dread is the rolling coup of the sitting president. Aliens would be a welcome relief.
An extensive study of the 48 constellations and the names of their stars which were recognized by all the ancient civilizations confirms the words of Psalm 19, also quoted in Romans 10 that before written history the promises of God in Genesis 3:15 were displayed in the sky. Fast forward through astronomy, linguistics, historical records, and the Bible to the cycle of the Ages and the culmination of the promise of a wounded male child who would overcome evil and it becomes credible that we are on the cusp of not just sorely needed judgment, but also a new world.
Act 1 of the celestial story is deliverance from the penalty of sin (forgiveness). Act 2 is deliverance from the power of sin (indwelling Holy Spirit). Act 3 is deliverance from the presence of sin (a community of love). This is the core of real Christianity.
Add in prophecies from Daniel and Revelation that mention 3 1/2 years and you begin to wonder if the last chapter of this unenlightened world of lies is about to end and we can get on with the exciting sequel—minus Satan.
What if this life is an audition for eternity?
My initial Substack article gives more details. This is not astrology, a human-centered corruption of astronomy, but science.
It's the end of the Kali-Yuga.
Something is coming. But then, something is always coming.
Be prepared.
What for?
I don’t know but prepare for it anyway.
Or don't. Live fully and let the cards fall.
The alternative is build a nice deep secret bunker and hide it under a ballroom?
Or build sophisticated underground bunkers like all the billionaires are doing. Look at the monstrous underground compound zuckerburg is finishing up in Hawaii, or those of bezos, musk and others building in the northwest and west coast, or that slimy thiel rushing off to a compound in Argentina.
It is no mistake that the Albanian island the reprehensible 🍊💩’s despicable family is trying to destroy has dozens and dozens of underground bunkers.
They all know something the rest of us don’t and are preparing for 5-10 years of living underground.
Wow. Way to drop a doom and gloom article full of sound and fury that reveals…nothing. Sorry I read it.
Keep your eyes on Miami in three days.
Don’t know if you know this or not, but something (someone) is preventing this article and comments from being opened.
I finally found a work-around.
Just thought you should know.
Comes up fine for me.
Good.
Forewarned is fair warned.
You have been warned.
Denial is a choice.
Ignorance is, oftentimes, a go-to choice.
Those billionaires who are building massive underground bunkers to live in for 10+ years, or rushing off to a compound in Argentina aren’t just coincidences or because they don’t know what else to do with their ill-gotten wealth.
The billionaires are privy to information that the rest of us peasants and disposable lifeforms have no clue about. They have been leaving clues for years.
Wake. The. Hell. Up!
Chortle! Funny stuff.